Evidence of meeting #5 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was system.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sheila Fraser  Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
William Baker  Former Commissioner , Canada Firearms Centre, As an Individual
Charles-Antoine St-Jean  Comptroller General of Canada, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
John Sims  Deputy Minister and Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice
Ian Bennett  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Acquisitions Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

That's right, but to bring Bill C-2 into force, you have to amend the old Bill C-11, which hasn't been put into law yet. That's what we're asking, that they put it into law.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

I see that, but I still see it as being a bit of an override situation. As an example, in the last Parliament I had a private member's bill that passed committee. We could have sought unanimous approval of the House to be able to bring it back before now, but a portion of it was then picked up—maybe in an amended form—to be brought back in the general government bill.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Well, this isn't the same thing.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

And I thought that would be fine. I see that as being a parallel circumstance in a parallel situation.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

No, it's not.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

I have a point of order. On a time concern, I know there are people waiting, and I really have to go. The time has run out for this meeting. I appreciate that we want to keep going, but I—

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

What I'm trying to say, Mr. Kramp, is that it's not parallel, because Bill C-11 was passed by the Senate; it has gone through the whole thing. Before it can be amended, it has to be promulgated by the government. That's what this is about.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

I disagree with the chair.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

You disagree? Okay.

Can we call the vote?

11 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

Can we deal with the point of order?

I apologize, but I've got to go and I don't want to vote.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

We're just going to call the vote on the motion.

(Motion negatived)

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

The meeting is adjourned.