I have one last question on information technology. I was on the board of a credit union in Manitoba, and I can tell you that if there's one place where you can run into cost overruns, it's with information technology, and also not necessarily getting the right product or the right system. By the time you find out it's not the right system, you're already halfway through it.
So I wonder if those are some of the issues you've been facing, if you're comfortable that the new information technology programs or systems that we've put in are working well.
I'd also like to know the relationships between Public Works and Government Services and the individual departments, because I'm assuming you're not getting rid of all the information technology. Even if they did work in silos for a long time, they still exist for a period of time before you can integrate all that.
So talk to me about the relationship; and in terms of the new systems we've put in, are we on budget and are they working well? Are they doing what they're supposed to be doing?