We've had evidence from experts, from people in the federal public service, on both the employer and union sides. The analyses they told us about differed widely.
Ms. Jauvin, from the Public Service Human Resources Management Agency of Canada, said that they saw things coming, but that it wasn't as serious as that. Ms. Barrados, from the Public Service Commission, said that everything was under control, except perhaps in the scientific field, where there are things that must be attended to.
On the other hand, the people who came from the Professional Institute of the Public Service and the Public Service Alliance said that there were red flags everywhere, that things were not going well and that there would be a major crisis in the medium term. All these words caused ambiguity, because we still don't have an answer.
You are one of those people who have studied the question, and you have provided some interesting information.
One aspect has been previously emphasized, the issue of temporary positions. A certain number of government employees have temporary positions and, for that reason, are not interested in going further when there is an opportunity elsewhere.
Don't you think that we could simply give these people permanent positions to avoid a shortage of government employees as best we can?