There was one other matter to discuss.
If I can remind you, there was also the issue of pay and benefits. I think that's a very difficult one, and I think we should pursue it.
If you recall, at the end of the last session in June we had asked that the clerk or his representative appear before the committee and we could get an update on what's gone on with this file since we last dealt with it. We also wrote a letter to the Auditor General asking her to look into it. So there were two things that happened at the very end. My feeling is that there are still major problems with pay and benefits across the public service, and I think it's important for us to address that.
Mr. Warkentin.