In which process do they want to be involved? There are a number of groups and committees that work with the unions. It depends on the issues and departments involved. The way in which various departments approach working with the union varies, but I believe that all deputy ministers... You perhaps have, from time to time, a committee... When I was at National Defence, we set up joint committees with the unions. We had a very good working relationship with them for years. It really depends on the department and the approach it chooses to use.
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