I think it's important to remember that some particular groups are moving more than others. I take your point, because you will often have some departments that are really characterized by the many people who stay, with a large proportion of the employees staying in that department for their whole career. And you're right that they may move around and do different things, but whether it's a science or policy interest they have, there can be a lot of stability in some of our organizations, depending on the business. In other cases, there is more movement with generalist skills, which one would expect.
But again, I go back to your question on whether there is an incentive. I think the incentive is from every employee really feeling and believing and experiencing that their contribution and career is important, and that whoever is managing them is working with them on an ongoing basis, because again, it's the good leadership, the interesting work, and the environment that's going to have people make choices. Do you know what I mean?
But we have to respect that some people do want to move around. Can we manage that with them? Can they do a decent amount of time with us, so we can get a bit of the return on investment, if you will? But can we also see them as a corporate player in the public service, who is going to bring value wherever they may move? I think those are the fundamentals that are key.