Evidence of meeting #15 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dimitri Soudas  Deputy Press Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister
Michael Rosenberg  President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group
Frédéric Loiselle  , As an Individual
John Lemieux  Lawyer, Fraser Milner Casgrain LLP, Rosdev Group
David Roebuck  As an Individual
Michael Fortier  Minister of Public Works and Government Services

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

I can't recall exactly how much.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

At least $1,000. How much more would you suspect?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

Every year I contributed, and I do it to every party. I'm a landlord of the government, so I do respect the government. I have an income from the government, cheques, a tenant....

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

So you may as well give a little back.

February 28th, 2008 / 9:40 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

I respect the government, and I do contribute legally to all parties.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

So you met Scott Brison when he was the Minister of Public Works. You paid—

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

I met him at a function, that's right.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Prior to him, the Minister of Public Works was Stephen Owen. Did you ever meet him when he was Minister of Public Works?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

It's possible. As I told you, I meet a lot of people.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Did you ever meet Alfonso Gagliano, Montreal, Minister of Public Works? I think you would remember him.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

Yes, but again at a function, not at a private meeting.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Did you have to pay to go to that meeting?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Rosdev Group

Michael Rosenberg

I don't think they called me to any meeting without my paying--the regular fundraising. I'm not saying it's.... You know, it's done in every party. Everybody is doing it.

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Thank you, Mr. Moore.

Mr. Angus.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

That was fascinating.

Mr. Soudas, I just wanted to get a sense of your role in the Prime Minister's Office. You do communications. You're an advisor on Quebec, because you know the city of Montreal. You said you do special projects as well.

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Deputy Press Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister

Dimitri Soudas

Quebec-related files or communications files.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

So in terms of where you are in the Prime Minister's Office, do you report to Sandra Buckler, Ian Brodie? Who is above you? Who is below you? Just give me a sense of where you'd be.

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Deputy Press Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister

Dimitri Soudas

I would say I report to Sandra Buckler, and everybody reports to the Prime Minister's chief of staff, ultimately.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

You said you get your paycheque from the Government of Canada, that you're not a party staffer; you work for the Government of Canada.

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Deputy Press Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister

Dimitri Soudas

That's right, sir.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

What similarity would you have to someone doing communications for a federal department? Where would you be?

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Deputy Press Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister

Dimitri Soudas

I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

The classification. Everybody who gets a paycheque through Treasury Board is pegged at a certain level.

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Deputy Press Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister

Dimitri Soudas

I've never asked that question, because I didn't know that existed, to be honest with you. I will look into it after this meeting.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

In terms of staff, say if you were director general for Treasury Board communications, you would have a number of managers below you, maybe 40. Would you be at the level of a director general?