Evidence of meeting #16 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michel Marcotte
Marc O'Sullivan  Acting Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects Secretariat, Privy Council Office

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An hon. member

Yes, there was.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

No, there wasn't.

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The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Michel Marcotte

The motion, with subamendment and amendment approved, would read as follows:

That, in relation with its study on the Light Rail Transit Project, this committee hold one additional meeting during the first week after the March break to hear testimony from the Minister of the Environment, Mr. John Baird.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

That's right. He amended, and that's how the full motion would read after all of these amendments.

But on Mr. Angus' amendment, I would like to call the vote on that, because I called it before there was anybody wanting to debate.

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An hon. member

I challenge the chair. A point of order, Madam Chair.

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Liberal

Raymonde Folco Liberal Laval—Les Îles, QC

A point of order.

I think the clerk has read the wrong amendment. I asked for just one meeting. Did he say one? Okay, it was the translation that was bad. It was one meeting only.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

That's what he said. There was a translation problem.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Now someone is challenging the chair, because I guess we want a filibuster here.

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

No, Madam Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

I'll ask the clerk what happens if I have not seen anyone with their hand up. I can call the vote.

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An hon. member

But the amendment wasn't read.

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Another hon. member

It's your prerogative, Chair.

You have to read the motion first.

They have the opportunity to challenge the chair if they want to challenge the chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Well, I would, too, because we have guests, and frankly we should vote and get it over with, so we can get on with the work of the committee. This is what you've been saying all along, so stop wasting time.

When Mr. Angus made his amendment, I didn't see anybody saying “I want to speak”, so I'm going to call the question.

All those in favour of Mr. Angus' motion?

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Madam Chair, there is a challenge to the chair. Is the chair answering that challenge?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

I'm telling you right now that when Mr. Angus proposed his motion, there was not one hand up anywhere, and therefore I called the vote. What am I going to do?

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Madam Chair, this isn't about playing games. This is about—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

It isn't? You could surprise me.

I've called the vote, and I want the vote now.

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An hon. member

The motion was not read.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

The motion has been read. I am calling the vote.

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

You're extending your authority.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

This is to be a recorded vote at the request of the Conservatives. This is on Mr. Angus' amendment, that the one meeting be held the week after the Easter break. Let's please vote.

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

A point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Yes, Mr. Kramp.

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Madam Chair, I challenged the chair on this issue, and the chair has just ignored the challenge and has not asked for a ruling from the clerk on this issue. This issue had not been read back to this committee to even mount a challenge. We have to go through our procedures. If the chair is just going to circumvent the rules of procedures and arbitrarily just run a kangaroo court, we have a problem.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Mr. Kramp, you are beyond the point of order.

Mr. Holland.