I know my time is running out here, and we'll probably get to continue on that line of questioning, but I do want to just specifically ask something. In the media, I again read that ministers were directly involved in the creation of these phantom positions. It wasn't your impression to me, and maybe the media has it wrong, but that would lead me to question who was involved. A person in a minister's office can't go and strong-arm their way into a department to force a job to be created for them. So if ministers weren't directly involved, somebody has to be facilitating this. So are we looking at deputy ministers? Are we looking at other mid-level bureaucrats, or are we possibly looking at other folks within the minister's staff at that time? I'm wondering if you could comment a little bit on that. Who facilitated this process?
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