It could be Sudbury, or anywhere else but Ottawa. At the time, they took them out of all parts of Canada and were going to centralize them just in Ottawa, and then they chose to do this in Winnipeg and Ottawa. But there were people in Atlantic Canada and all over the country who either lost their jobs or were transferred to other jobs, or to Ottawa and Winnipeg, at the time the decision was made.
Now I will go with Mr. Brown.