If we have 75 people responsible for pay and benefits—and as the witnesses reported at this committee, it takes a tremendous amount of experience and corporate knowledge to be able to handle all of this—and 50 of them are gone in the one year per se in HR, then there's no wonder we have problems with people getting paid and/or accommodated through various raises and all that. That is maybe only one sidebar to many inefficiencies and levels of ineffectiveness that are taking place.
As a committee in charge of government operations and reporting to Parliament, obviously government is not working the way it should. So I'm really concerned. At some point, when we go through the mandatory things that we should be perusing, I really think this is an optional one that we should explore as soon as possible.