Evidence of meeting #36 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was smes.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David MacDonald  As an Individual
Mike O'Neil  Chair, Canadian Business Information Technology Network
Jeff Lynt  Director, Canadian Business Information Technology Network
Liliane saint pierre  Assistant Deputy Minister, Acquisitions Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Steven Poole  Chief Executive Officer, Information Technology Services Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Maurice Chénier  Chief Operating officer, Office of the Chief Executive Officer (ITS), Department of Public Works and Government Services

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Are you agreeing to the change? Do you want to move...?

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

If I understand correctly, Charlie would like the government to table its plan, but in the meantime, the government is stalling. He is adding to my motion. Correct?

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

It doesn't really. It just says to bring forward its plan on the implementation of a policy--

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I said “prior to the implementation”, so--

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

It was “prior to”.

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

We're saying that they have to bring that to committee before the plan is implemented.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Yes. Is that okay?

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

I only wanted to be certain that...

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

I'm going to call the vote on the amendment. It reads:

That the government bring forward its plan prior to the implementation of its policy aimed at bundling the procurement of IT products and services

(Amendment agreed to)

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

The motion is unanimous--no, that's the amendment; well, I suppose it's the same thing. It ends up being the motion as amended is supported.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I apologize for asking this question. I don't want to delay the committee, but I have to go to the House.

What is happening to the part about having the “Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner investigate the allegations...”?

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

It got dropped.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

It got dropped because it's not for our committee to do this. It was dropped as part of the earlier debate.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Thank you.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

It should go to the ethics committee.

Go ahead, Mr. Angus.

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I was supporting removing it because I think it's a separate issue. Mr. Moore said it should go to the other committee, but I don't think that was the consensus of the committee. It was a separate issue that should be dealt with separately from this motion, just to be clear.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Thank you.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Do we have a second motion?

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Right now we just have the first motion as amended. We don't have the second motion at this time.

All those in favour of the motion as amended--

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Could we have it read just once before we actually--

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Okay. It reads as follows:

That the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates recommend that the government bring forward its plan prior to the implementation of its policy aimed at bundling the procurement of IT products and services.

The question is on that particular motion.

(Motion as amended agreed to)

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

That one is finished--

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

I have a point of order.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Yes, sir.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Who was voting on the Liberal side here?