I wanted to bring a point of clarification. I believe Mr. Angus on two occasions indicated that Mr. Brodie doesn't remember speaking to the reporter, and that either the reporter is lying or Mr. Brodie is lying.
Maybe I misunderstood your characterization. You will hear from Mr. Brodie later himself, so he can speak for himself. But Mr. Brodie has never denied to us and I should say he has always recognized that he did speak to the reporter in lock-up. That's never been an issue. What he doesn't remember is speaking about NAFTA.