Madam Chair, in terms of the immediate problem, what we're saying with the current job description and the current.... There is a difference between complexity and workload, and unfortunately workload is being paid by overtime and not by classification. The classification standard that we have in the Government of Canada does not recognize workload.
So what we're saying here is that we have nothing against them. They're dedicated employees. If their job was worth an AS-3 position across the public service, or AS-4, we would do it. We've done it through the years, and we have a lot of time for our employees who are in the pay business.