Okay, I've followed that trail as far as I think they're going to allow me, Mr. Chair.
I'll switch to a separate subject then. I'm guessing this is more to Mr. McBain as well. There is a mention here with regard to funding a joint learning program with the Public Service Alliance of Canada to improve labour-management relations. Judging by the numbers I see here, it looks like it's around $4 million. Does that sound about right?