You're clearly saying that the utilization of the template of tools and the accountability function rests solely with the deputy ministers. That's what I'm hearing you say.
I'm going to turn to Service Canada, who handles tens of millions of transactions, as you know, from CPP to employment insurance. They stopped using Secure Channel. As you know, they had several series of crashes; they had a lot of problems and issues. One of the concerns around this is, who covered the cost of these problems? They actually had to go out and do some additional work, as you know, under Secure Channel, but we're not quite clear on who covered the cost.
I'm sure the deputy minister was quite involved in this from that oversight and accountability process, but we're not quite sure: was the administration drawn from the EI fund, or how were they actually covered?