Mr. Brown, I'll explain. Mr. Martin put a motion and I consulted the clerk. I was told that it is in order. I stated it is in order. Mr. Jean challenged that ruling. When a ruling is challenged—and I'm sorry, Ministers, that you have to put up with this—then under procedure I have to call a vote. We voted, and Mr. Martin's motion is deemed to have stayed. There is no other debate.
I think we would like to have some input from the ministers, and we will start with our first....
Mr. Jean, you have a point of order.