At that, I would like to thank our witnesses very much for their testimony today. Thank you for taking the time to be with us and for sharing your thoughts. It's much appreciated.
We have a little bit of committee business to deal with, so we'll allow a minute or two and then we'll proceed.
Sometimes I know there's a discussion about whether committee business is done in camera or in public. I generally prefer that all these things be conducted in public. That way, it's a matter of public record, and I don't think there's anything to hide. That's the way I've usually done my committee business.
In terms of the motions we have before us, I'd like to discuss the various options. I'm just going to lay out how this can work. First, there is the motion from the member from Calgary West, and then there is the motion from Ms. Martha Hall Findlay—Mrs. or Ms.?