Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Madam Barrados. Good morning.
I think in your last comments you said something that we could start from: that the whole system needs to be better managed. I don't disagree. We found in a study done by this committee that the management personnel who work in HR are really at the front lines. In a way, they're the unsung heroes who are trying to cope with retaining and attracting the people we need, given the burden of the increased turnover.
I guess I'm shocked, though, to hear the numbers put forward by my colleague, that those HR managers are having to go outside to the extent of $170 million a year to do their job. To put that in context, what is the total budget of the Public Service Commission?