I can turn to one example of where it does work and what CABiNET is talking about. It is in the area of furniture procurement. We just concluded our standing offers for free-standing furniture. We found when we were buying furniture from small and medium enterprises the price of the furniture was the same because they were going to the large manufacturers. There are very few manufacturers of furniture when it comes to office equipment. The price we were getting from each of the small and medium enterprises was the very same. The manufacturer was offering the same price. It was becoming a flow-through to us directly from the small and medium enterprises. The difference was in the cost of installation and maintenance afterwards.
What we've done, through industry consultations, is we put standing offers in place with a number of furniture manufacturers where we're buying the furniture directly but then using the small and medium enterprises to do the installation. So they're still benefiting from the services they were providing us before and taxpayers are benefiting from a bundled buying of furniture bulk as opposed to a one-off transaction through small and medium enterprises. It does work in terms of looking at how you can combine the bulk purchasing of equipment that the government is using and at the same time looking at the installation that's being supplied by small and medium enterprises.