His staff has approached me and indicated that at some point the minister may have to leave. I said if that's the case, then when the time comes, the time comes. The officials, I presume, will stay.
We're delighted to have Mr. Toews here. As colleagues know, the main estimates issue, on which Mr. Toews is appearing today, is the big enchilada of ministerial accountability. While we're very appreciative of the minister, his appearance here is pretty much de rigueur. We all realize that ministers do have busy days, but....
If you do have to withdraw from the meeting, Mr. Toews, you can come back at another date, possibly, before we report back all of the other votes in the main estimates in June.