Thank you.
I do think it's very important that Mr. Gourde referenced the theft of $39 million, because it is in the context.... It's the very reason we have the Federal Accountability Act: as a response to that. So I think there is a zero tolerance attitude with this Prime Minister and this government towards lobbying, towards lobbyists who aren't registered appropriately. That's why we have questions about whether it was expressed, whether it was asked, if Mr. Jaffer was a registered lobbyist.
On that note, Ms. Coady referenced success fees. I want to touch upon that a little bit further and on whether you knew that under the Lobbying Act they are prohibited. Actually, it was this government that created the Lobbying Act, with a budget of $4.6 million to pursue this. People can actually end up in jail; people can end up with serious fines if they breach it. That's how sacred these laws are.
I want to know if success fees are something that was ever discussed. It's very relevant right now, I think, that the government is recuperating in one case, the Dingwall case—I think it's officially the Wallding case—a success fee of $350,000 paid to someone who lobbied inappropriately.
Were any success fees talked about and are you aware of the gravity of these allegations?