Government Operations Committee on May 5th, 2010

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

Mr. Martin, Ms. Coady was making a suggestion. I'm going to listen to her suggestion and I'm going to listen to everybody's suggestions. Then, together, we will determine. You've had meetings where you have had nothing but dilatory things going on, where you couldn't even discuss.

We do not have witnesses today. Why don't we have witnesses today? We should have had witnesses, as the committee was very serious about doing its business. If it is not serious about doing its business, then none of us should be here. Either we do our business in a proper manner or we just fold up and go away. Therefore--

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

You already did.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

--Ms. Coady has come up with a list. Anybody else who has come up with a list is more than welcome to present their list.

So Mr. Martin--

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

We did that last meeting. We presented our witnesses.

He's got a list: every one of these names is on the list that Marc has already.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

So there are two things he has, the PBO and Corrections, that can come on May 10. If that's what you want, we can get them to come on May 10. That's what the clerk has.

For May 12, if you want estimates--

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

I just resent the orchestrated hijacking of the committee. That's what I resent.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

I have just come back.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

Yes, I know.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

I received this list, and I gave it to you to say this is what came from the Liberals.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

You gave it to me as if this was the committee's list.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

No, no.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

This is actually the identical list, typed at Siobhan Coady's office, as if it--

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

If it was the committee's list, Mr. Martin, it would have been sent by the clerk and not by me.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

Baloney.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

It would have been sent by the clerk to everyone.

Ms. Coady has the floor. She can tell us what her requests are.

Then we have a speaking order for Mr. Brown, Mr. Warkentin, and Ms. Mendes.

If you want, I'll put you down for your list as well.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

I already did that--when you were travelling, frankly.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

I'd like to comment on that point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

I think Madam Coady has a point of order.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

This is on Mr. Martin's point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

Sure, go ahead.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

It is true that the clerk had a list from last week. The problem is precisely that we have absolutely no one from that list today here, and that is why Siobhan has put forward another list.

We have no one from the full list that was provided to the clerk last week--no one--and we had more than 25 names on that list. That is the problem.

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

Mr. Martin, I just checked with the clerk. He says, “What list?”

So if you think that you have--

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

Oh, really.

You weren't making any notes at the last meeting? Shall we check the blues, perhaps?

Does anybody else remember me reciting 10 or 12 or 14 names, all of which are on this page today?

[The Chair, Liberal, Yasmin Ratansi]

Mr. Martin--

[The Clerk]

There was one decision made about the meeting on May 5, for more clarity.