Obviously when you retain a lawyer to represent you and act in your interests, the lawyer becomes privy to your conduct and your matters.
In the case of Aerofoam Metals, Mr. Gillani holds them out as his client, and a successful client, when in fact they were not a client of ISI, but a client of his previous company, Otnorot Holdings. These people were looking to them to support their business, to finance them, to allow them to continue in the business. When they objected to Mr. Gillani's conduct--they were paying for moneys, and he was receiving moneys from investors, but never forwarding it on to them--and decided they'd try to walk away from Mr. Gillani, he used the legal process to put a claim against them, to burn up the remaining capital, and basically to force the company into an insolvent position.
The lawyer involved in getting that together obviously becomes aware of how his client conducts himself, and the counterclaim to that action lays out Mr. Gillani's egregious conduct in technicolor.
The person who uses the squeeze.... Mr. Apps is not an associate at a small firm. When Mr. Gillani embarks on dragging someone whose name is important into his business dealings, obviously there's a bit of fear and intimidation that comes with it. My interpretation of that is that this is somebody who had full knowledge of how Mr. Gillani conducts himself.
Mr. Gillani was very much the subject of that article in the Toronto Star on April 8, so when you have a....