Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Mr. Harvey, I'd like to come back to understanding the relationship with Mr. Snowdy.
My Cape Breton mom used to say that if it sounds too good to be true, then it likely isn't true. As I've heard you talk about your dozens of meetings with Mr. Gillani and what sounds like a single meeting that you had with Mr. Jaffer, it sounds as if there were promises made but not kept. Is that a fair assumption?