I had said to him that in the case of our business we needed $5 million--not talking about terms or anything like that, just the quantum of dollars we were looking for. And he responded saying that the amount wasn't the problem; it was a question of whether we fit the requirements of the funding. So frankly, when I left from that lunch I didn't think we were going to fit a green fund, in the sense of the words--
On May 26th, 2010. See this statement in context.