I'm sorry, it was my understanding that he was introduced to Gillani at that meeting also, by Gillani's cousin. I think it was the first time they'd met, and I think the meeting was more for them to understand themselves better, between those two, because we were sort of shuffled out at lunch and another group of guys came in, so we didn't stay around very long. We had a lunch and talked about green initiatives, green projects, this energy thing, green energy, which I do. I described to him what I do.
On May 26th, 2010. See this statement in context.