Evidence of meeting #18 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was gillani.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jim Wright  Chairman, Wright Tech Systems
Ian Harvey  As an Individual

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Do you know the nature of that information?

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

I don't, other than what's been reported in the media. But I couldn't tell you what--

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

So even though Mr. Snowdy came to you and said “I have this information, I'd like to bring it forward to the Conservative lawyer”, you have no idea to this day what information he brought forward or whether or not it included Madam Guergis or the affairs of Mr. Jaffer, access to government, and things of that nature.

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Have you been contacted by the RCMP on any of this?

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

You've already been in discussions with the RCMP about Mr. Jaffer and so on. Okay.

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

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Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Have you been contacted by the commissioner of lobbying on this issue?

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

No, I haven't.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

I want to go back to that $5 million loan you anticipated getting. You anticipated paying a 10% fee on that. You never saw a term sheet on that?

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

No, there was nothing like that. As I said, the only communication we had around the terms of anything like that was in the e-mail that came the next day.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

We have a copy of it.

4:45 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

Outside of that, I think I had mentioned that we inquired a couple of times, but that was it.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Around that same period, you received--and you said so in your opening statement--an e-mail from Mr. Gillani saying they had “an earth moving experience last night”. What was your interpretation of that claim? What did you think he meant by that?

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

That's your last question.

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

Because we hadn't heard anything in a few weeks with respect to the government funding, first I questioned why I was even sent that e-mail. And then I tried to connect the dots and thought that perhaps he had sent it to me to let me know he was still engaged with Mr. Jaffer--

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

That was for the $5 million.

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

Yes--and that the funding might be forthcoming even at that point.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you.

We now go to Monsieur Guimond, pour huit minutes, s'il vous plaît.

4:50 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Mr. Harvey, were you in the room earlier, when I questioned Mr. Wright?

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

Yes, I was here for the end of it.

May 26th, 2010 / 4:50 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Do you, unlike Mr. Wright, know what a lobbyist does? Are you aware of the lobbying system here in Ottawa?

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Ian Harvey

No, I certainly do not. I lived in the U.S. for ten years. I had a better idea of what lobbying was about in the U.S. than I do in Canada. But at the very least, I understand it has something to do with--

4:50 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Rahim Jaffer met with you and gave you a double-sided business card, which referred to him as Rahim Jaffer, member for Edmonton—Strathcona and chair of the Conservative national caucus. Then there was the address of his office, and so on. He gave it to you at a meeting on August 25, 2009.

So you saw an opportunity to get federal funding. Isn't that so?