Mr. Milfred Hammerbacher at the Government Operations and Estimates Committee

I've never met with Mr. Jaffer. I had two meetings with Mr. Glémaud. I should back up and say that we have two offices here in Ontario, one in Kitchener, where I'm located, and then David runs our Ottawa office. Last summer, on two of my visits to Ottawa, Mr. Glémaud was there to talk about potential projects that he might be able to bring to us.