We are debating the motion. As I said earlier, I will try not to speak too loudly, so as not to offend Mr. Holder. As I said before, the committee is master of its own proceedings. It has undertaken a serious study to find out more about the actions of Rahim Jaffer, the former chair of the national Conservative caucus, who fraudulently used his former business card. These actions ultimately led to the demotion or firing of his spouse, Helena Guergis. We are still in the dark as to the exact reasons for her demotion. Even she does not know the reasons. In essence, the committee wants to know the extent of Mr. Jaffer and Ms. Guergis' involvement in this whole affair. To that end, it launched a study and decided to invite a number of witnesses. This was discussed in the course of our in-camera meetings on future business. At such times, we decide which witnesses we wish to invite and when we would like to invite them.
The three ministers have come here and are trying to turn these proceedings into a circus. We have always been able to get along. I just want you to know, Madam Chair, that the ministers were not invited here and that they should not be allowed to testify. I intend to vote against my Conservative colleague's motion. In due time, the committee will decide whether or not to invite the three ministers to come back, as it is fully free to do. For that reason, I will be voting against the Conservatives' motion.