On a point of order, Madam Chair, obviously we misrepresented...what your ruling was. Your ruling was that we have them and we hear from them. Now, to hear from them without giving them the opportunity to speak is a little bit difficult.
In that context, I'd like to remind you that on page 139 of Justice John Gomery's report, he said, “Ministers need to understand clearly that they are accountable, responsible and answerable for all the actions of their exempt staff.” And that's what they're doing here today.