Where was I? Oh, yes, the connection with Dr. Chen.
So we know that at least one of Mr. Jaffer's clients had met with Ms. Guergis. That's where the crossover may have occurred: Ms. Guergis possibly helping out Rahim Jaffer's private sector clients to advance them.
Certainly, when Rahim Jaffer can produce a cabinet minister for a business dinner, it creates the impression that he can bring the help of the government to the table. Is that the impression that you're concerned about, that Rahim Jaffer was peddling his influence with the government of the day and demonstrating that influence by producing a cabinet minister to dine with prospective clients?