I think on this side of the table we believe there is a possibility that everybody who goes into Correctional Services might be able to leave a better person. I know your group has done a great thing in working to change the way in which inmates are treated, in an expectation that there be some accountability while they're doing their time. We also believe there's an important aspect to criminals serving out their sentence so that they might benefit from the entire program and the programming that's available to them.
It's interesting when I hear from the other side that on one hand they believe these criminals should be allowed to be released earlier, but on the other hand they continue to say that in fact if they don't get out we should be afraid of those people while they're in. So we hear comments about safety concerns for our communities and the people working in the prisons, whereas if the measures weren't brought forward to reduce the two for one credit, which really sees the most violent offenders actually retained in prison to serve out their entire sentence.... So there's a real paradox. There seems to be on one side that the members opposite believe that these people should be allowed to be released, but on the other hand they see that they are a risk to the community or to individuals--