Mr. Chair, there are two things.
In terms of the municipal and provincial police, although there was an integrated security unit, each police force was responsible for its own area of jurisdiction. They would have incurred in those areas whatever expenses they would normally incur in maintaining their operations. In terms of numbers, they will ultimately bill the Government of Canada for the total incremental costs for the G-8 and G-20 event. Those will be audited, as I said, when they come in.
In terms of the L'Aquila summit, I didn't actually visit the L'Aquila summit. I visited the site where they were originally going to hold the summit, which was a considerably different and rather more expensive venture than the L'Aquila site. That summit was moved during a very short period before the G-8 and the G-20 occurred.