I believe the facts themselves show that Mr. Sauvé lied.
When Mr. Sauvé was awarded this contract in 2008, he himself stated publicly, in an article that appeared in Le Devoir, that there had been no political intervention in the awarding of that contract.
I'm wondering about something else as well. Mr. Sauvé got in touch with you, Mr. Coderre, as political lieutenant, to enquire about running. What version did you believe back then? Did you believe there had been political intervention or not? That's what he said at the time.