In the 1980s, we were both organizers for the RCM, Jean Doré's party: me in Montreal North, him in Rosemont. There were a lot of events. We organized conventions. Municipal district associations sometimes sold as many as 1,000 or 2,000 cards, so there had to be conventions organized. Everybody knew that they were running with Jean Doré, the time for change had come.
So I crossed paths a lot with Mr. Duceppe at that time.