You have no knowledge of that? Well, the bribes at the front end and the kickbacks at the back end are what we're concerned about. If a person like Varin were shaking down a contractor for bribes, if you wanted to bribe your way onto a bidders list, for instance, who would Mr. Varin pay out in order to get that kind of a contract for his client?
On December 7th, 2010. See this statement in context.