Mr. Chair, there are a number of significant inaccuracies in what my friend has just talked about.
First of all, with respect, I think it's one thing to say, “I totally disagree with the government plan”; it is a factual inaccuracy to say there is no plan. We have a plan; it's documented; it's published for all to see and criticize. We have a plan. To say you disagree with it.... Absolutely. But it is factually inaccurate to say we don't have a plan.
Also, my friend talked about something the IMF said relative to five-year projections. The IMF made a number of statements, in some of which it's asking the government to look at numbers. But if she could give to me the document that says they significantly question our five-year plan, I'd like to see it. It may be there, but I haven't seen it.
Mr. Chair, on the element of attrition, I have simply and plainly said that it has been over 11,000—I think I gave the figure in question period along the lines of what—