I don't know the actual number that translates into, but I could help, Chair, if I were to add that we do see normal attrition in retirement going on in the department. Those were the numbers that I referred to in my opening comments: in the order of 950 who will retire and then another 750 who will leave the department's rolls for a variety of reasons. I would make the distinction between that and the EAP influx.
On February 15th, 2011. See this statement in context.