Thank you, Madam Scarborough. That concludes your time.
Bernard, thank you.
That also concludes the first round of questioning.
I'm wondering if I can ask for clarification on one issue from both of the witnesses. We heard previous testimony that some small entrepreneurs/small businesses find it difficult to get government procurement or access to government contracts because of the way some IT contracts, especially, are bundled and the tender is put forward. It sort of precludes the participation of some of the smaller companies. Could I ask either of you, is this something that the businesses you represent have brought to your attention as a frustration or a barrier in achieving contracts with the government?