The public service in this respect is different from a lot of private organizations. We are a position-based system where the jobs are advertised. So employees can apply for other jobs and move themselves. In fact, I was complaining at the committee last year that there was too much movement in the system; I thought it was becoming unstable, because of the rate at which people were moving. That has slowed down.
So we do have a system where people can move themselves, if they're qualified. In addition, all managers will work with their employees and develop a training plan and talk to them about things they could learn, or about other opportunities. You can move people at the same level without a competitive process. So that's another thing that is going on in the public service.
It's true that the growth has slowed down, but we still brought in about 15,000 permanent and temporary term workers. Those were replacements so you had about that number of people going out. So there is still movement in and out.