Yes. By way of example, in terms of generating short-term savings, because we've consolidated 43 departments together, we get a consolidation dividend because we need less management and less corporate overhead.
The second thing, as the minister has said, is that we've also inherited a whole series of contractual arrangements that were negotiated within the context of each individual department for all ranges of things: software licensing, hardware maintenance agreements, and this type of thing. By examining those contracts, we can look at all the contracts that are there. We know already that there are wide variances in pricing. By consolidating them, we can then go to the lowest price by aggregation of the contractual arrangements and thereby reap savings that way.
A third way is though telephony modernization. By way of example, today the Government of Canada has 330,000 Centrex phones. That's a technology that was invented by Nortel approximately 60 years ago. Today that continues to cost $31 a month per phone. We can substitute the voice over IP phones that cost $15 per month. There is another example of a short-term benefit.