Mr. Ryan Campbell (Compensation and Policy Officer, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada) at the Government Operations and Estimates Committee

Sure.

According to the document, there's definitely the potential for savings. What is uncertain is when those savings are actually going to come. The report itself says that the cost is going to be between, I think, off the top of my head, $150 million and $350 million. You'd think in a project like this that the costs are going to come at the beginning and the savings are going to come at the end.