Yes, you are absolutely correct that both in transition and in transformation you need to invest to reap the benefits. On our page 21, it's highlighted by the red bars you see.
In transformation, where you're actually consolidating the server environment, for example, you need to set up a virtualized server infrastructure to take advantage of that. That's an example. When you're in transition to actually move some of the work to internal shared services or to a private sector provider, you need to incur transition expenses to do that. We've documented those one-time costs there, first of all.
Second, in terms of the timeline here, this is for illustrative purposes only. As I just mentioned, we view this as a series of gates, and for each decision.... For example, virtualizing the servers across the Government of Canada would need to have its own business case and would need to have its payback that has been approved by the Treasury Board and other stakeholders. For transition and for the different service bundles as well, each one of those is a separate business case as to when the payback and the returns will occur.
You're absolutely right: in any transformational program like this, you need to make some investments.