Evidence of meeting #3 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was forces.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kevin Lindsey  Assistant Deputy Minister, Finance and Corporate Services, Department of National Defence
Dan Ross  Assistant Deputy Minister (Materiel), Department of National Defence
Robert Fonberg  Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence
Bruce Donaldson  Vice-Chief of the Defence Staff, Department of National Defence

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

It is agreed, not quite immediately.

Shall vote 10a under National Defence carry?

National Defence Vote 10a--To authorize the transfer of..........$18,386,400

(Vote 10a agreed to on division)

Shall the chair report the supplementary estimates (A) 2011-12 to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.

We do have some brief committee business. We have been informed by the Minister of Health that she is only able to be with us on Monday morning, from 10 a.m. to noon, and in fact for only one hour of that time period.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

The second hour is for estimates.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Yes.

This is the change that's just been announced during this meeting. In that case, we would consider the Department of Health estimates from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. and the Treasury Board estimates from 3:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m., with the minister with us for one of those hours as well. It's the best we can do.

Is it agreed that we will book those meetings and attend?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Great. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

We're going to meet in the morning and the afternoon.

I do have to comment, Mr. Chair. You thanked the ministers that were here today. The ministers are busy and they are making every effort to be here. They just couldn't make it next week for the meetings and the time slots that we had. It doesn't mean that they're not interested in coming.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

I didn't mean to imply they weren't.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

That was the implication.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Let's face it. We are trying to get all this done by the 16th and it's not going to happen now because two of the ministers, even though they were sitting in their chairs in the House of Commons, wouldn't answer a call to our committee to defend their own estimates.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Well, they are coming.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

They're asking our permission to spend money. Let's keep it in perspective here. In the future, when we reconvene in the fall, we're going to be a lot more forceful in what ministers attend and when, believe me.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

You need to be fair, Mr. Chair.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

We'll be fair and we'll be firm.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Remember, you're the chairman.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

With the emphasis on firm.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Remember, you're the chairman now.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

The meeting is adjourned.