That's very interesting.
I think that concludes the rounds.
We will again thank our witnesses from the Treasury Board Secretariat.
Madame d'Auray, Madame Thornton, and Madame Walker, this has been very helpful and very useful. Thank you very much.
I'm going to suspend the meeting for just 30 seconds or so, and we'll reconvene in camera, if that's okay.
[Proceedings continue in camera]