Yes, just briefly. I wasn't going to say anything, actually, but when Finn referred to the taxes as a factor that weighs on one side of this equation, of course taxes are paying for the ongoing costs of P3s as well. I don't see how that's not just neutral, as between the two.
Also, I really don't think it's an issue that it costs government less to borrow money than it does the private sector. I hope I'm not putting words in people's mouths, but the issue is, are there other benefits that come from this form of organization and management of infrastructure that offset those higher financing costs? My position is that if we have problems with the way we run infrastructure in Canada, we should design systems and redesign our way of accounting for things, so that there's an incentive in the public sector to do the right thing, not only on the 15% that we do through P3s but on the 85% that we don't.