Mr. Vijay Gill at the Government Operations and Estimates Committee

I'll just say that part of the reason why this is very confusing is that there are two different measurements here. Finn was talking largely about the welfare measurement—the overall efficiency gain—and generally the VFM speaks to the government fiscal balance, to the government fiscal perspective, to how many dollars are coming in and out. They're two different things.

I won't elaborate on that right now, but maybe that's part of the confusion.