Let me share this with you, because that is something that those who do not support P3s use as an example. Unfortunately, it's a very false example to use, and I'll tell you why.
First, the Charleswood Bridge was done before my time. It was the first one done. It is the best-maintained structure in the province of Manitoba. That's just a fact.
The interest rate is higher than normal. Why is that? It is because that's what the politicians, the elected officials, chose to do. The elected officials decided they wanted a ceiling on interest. They got the ceiling, but when you get a ceiling you also get a floor, and that's how that happened.
I can emphatically state to you that this was the fault of the elected officials who did not do their due diligence; it had nothing to do with the Charleswood Parkway. But I thank you for asking that question.