First of all, I think you've hit the nail on the head: this is all about value for money. To be very frank with you, it's not the elected officials who are the experts in determining how to calculate the value for money. We obviously retain the expertise and they come in and assess the entire project. They come up with the numbers for value for money.
I have to be very frank with you. I'm not going to speak for other municipalities, but we're in a crisis situation when it comes to our infrastructure. At some point in time—and only because you mentioned this, because I wasn't going to say it—when 8¢ goes to a municipality, 65¢ of every tax dollar collected goes to the provincial government, and 27¢ goes to the federal government, and yet on many of these programs we're expected to match and maintain our aging infrastructure, it's impossible. We're going to dig ourselves such a hole that my great-grandchildren will not get out of it. When you see a tool such as P3s, which can help you solve some of your problems—it can't solve all your problems.
But to answer your question specifically, I do not do the calculations. We usually go to outside accounting firms and get fair, objective, and complete analysis of this. I don't want to give you an answer that I'm not an expert on.